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"This is electro-industrial music at its best: this is probably what the new EBM is or should be now."
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Dark Spy Magazine (Germany) interviews Angelspit
"We wanted to make something that reflected our experience at that time – living in glorious Berlin, being surrounded by so many amazing cultures and languages of Europe. Musically, we were more inspired by the new electro…and applying our punk attitude."
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30 : JAN : 08
ANGELSPIT Interview in Nocturne Magazine
Interview by Jonathan Armstrong

 

Firstly, thank you for agreeing to do an interview for Nocturne! We hope it's not too cold in Germany, and appreciate your words!

An absolute pleasure!
We’re missing NZ and the West Island very much right now…!!
There are Australian and New Zealand back packers EVERYWHERE here.

 

 

"We all need to support the clubs more. We need to tune into the local radio shows more. We need to buy the cloths made by the local designers and make this scene grow. We need to buy the CDs and Tshirts from the local bands. Our scenes kick ass!"
- Angelspit

So, two-thousand-and-seven was a busy year for Angelspit. After a tour of the US, you've been abroad in Europe for a year. I imagine both continents attract a different kind of audience, and that there are major cultural differences between Europe and the US.

The USA is very similar to Australia/NZ. Similar cloths, EXACT same music…it’s all very similar. You play a gig to a room full of people, then travel 2 hours, and play another gig to another room full of people (it helped supporting the Cruxshadows) It was all very similar from state to state..
Europe is a completely different story. Europe has a lot of cultural diversity. German EMB Gotiks are very different to Polish traditional Goths who are totally different to the crazy Czech Goths who are a world away from the Dutch cyber Goths who are different to who-gives-a-shit-lets-have-a-mad-party Portuguese Goths who are utterly contrast to the mammoth UK Goth scene.
Each country has a dress code, a dance (yes, they have their own dance!!) and their own “vibe of structure”. Some countries, because they are small, are just the DJs throwing together a party. Other countries have a major industry to support the culture….like Germany or the UK.

We came out of it with a real appreciation for the Australian and NZ scene. Our countries are both very inventive and friendly. Australian and New Zealanders make a lot of their own cloths, and make some truly diverse music. Our scenes are small but they ROCK.
The grass is not greener in the USA/Europe…it’s different. EVERY SINGLE BAND we played with wanted to tour

AU/NZ, every person we spoke too wanted to know about AU/NZ’s scene.

We all need to support the clubs more. We need to tune into the local radio shows more. We need to buy the cloths made by the local designers and make this scene grow. We need to buy the CDs and Tshirts from the local bands. Our scenes kick ass!

A funny thing about the USA - we would play in a town with a population of 100,000…and there would be about 100 there. But the funny thing was that it was in the middle of winter and the snow was piled 2 feet high (I shit you not – we were unloading the vans in -15C)…and still people were coming out….and it was a Tuesday night
We have played cities in AU/NZ with PERFECT WEATHER and a population of between 500,000 and 4 million…and also got 100 people….on a Saturday night…!!
…why?
…the sad part is that it is usually these cities who are the first to complain how much "the scene sucks".
The biggest club in the USA pulls about 700 people…and it is on a Wednesday night

The answer is simple – support your scene, watch it grow. Take your friends out to all the clubs and HAVE FUN.

No audience = no scene.

 

Where do you prefer to tour, and have any experiences from being abroad influenced the material on the album you are currently working on?

Obviously AU and NZ. After that the USA and England…then Europe (I think we’ve annoyed Europe enough for now!)

 

After the release of Krankhaus (2006), Angelspit signed to Dancing Ferret. Although you released a remix album (Surgically Atoned, 2007), the next album will be your first release with new material on Dancing Ferret.

YES!
And it’s shaping up to be a killer – we are confident that it is better than Krankhaus – in that it is very different to Krankhaus. It’s more electro punk, more funky, more dirty, faster harder louder. Ballistic Electro Punk!!

 

Does the album have a working title yet, and has being signed to DF changed the means by which your album is produced technically, artistically, or financially?

We are still undecided on the title.
Dancing Ferret have changed the way we work - I think we work better now. They’ve offered suggestions with timelines and workload. They have also given us confidence and encouraged us to really believe in ourselves and take ourselves seriously.
Bands often say that they "don’t take themselves seriously"…I think that’s a crime.
European and American bands take themselves EXTREMELY seriously…and there are EU/USA bands charting/touring who are no where near as good as N.U.T.E. or The Mercy Cage. I’ve often watched some huge German band and thought "The Mercy Cage would kick your ass if they played on that stage with you". The talents from our countries are just as good as anyone else.

 

Artistically and finically Dancing Ferret take a big step back. They know we make our art in our own chaotic fashion, and they respect that it is vital that *WE* fund the CDs through our merch.

Europe has a thriving counter-culture movement. Have the two of you had the chance to visit or play any squats, communes or alternative festivals, and how would you compare the European "alternative" movement to that of Australia?

Not many squat gigs…but heaps of smaller gigs.

The main difference between the European and the Australian scene is that the European scene is serious because it takes itself seriously. Australia has this stupid self deprecation syndrome.
After the USA, some of the biggest gigs we played were in Australia. Some of the smallest gigs we played where in Europe.

 

"You can have lots of money to buy all the trivial plastic toys you desire, OR you may create your art. Choose one."
- Angelspit

Whilst in Germany, Angelspit got the chance to play perhaps the world's biggest gothic festival -Wave Gotik Treffen. Did you meet any major artists, and can you describe the WGT experience to readers from the point of view of a punter, and also from the point of view of a performer?

It rocked! Bands are a lot of fun…but their crew are usually more wild. There is an infamous merch girl named Laura (she does the merch for a seriously gigantic American band)…she is THE BEST FUN! We were invited to a cocktail wank with several *huge* bands, but chose to get shamefully drunk with Laura and some friends and fans in an underground bunker that played the most insane electro cyber industrial!

If you get a chance, you MUST go to WGT…there is something abstractly amazing about waiting in line in a supermarket that is FULL of Goths (like 300!!), or being on a tram that is PACKED with Goths.

 

You have no doubt met some fantastic people and tasted many different cultures. We know as artists you have an unquenchable thirst for new experience, knowledge and influence. Have your adventures resulted in a desire to permanently live overseas, or have you found a new appreciation for home?

We’d love to be in Europe for European summer – the festivals ROCK. American 'Fall' is a brilliant time for touring the USA…
…but the clincher is FOOD. Australia has THE BEST Indian and Vietnamese…so we are bound by our stomaches.
Australia and NZ are truly awesome places for a band to be based. Beautiful weather, great culture, did I mention food? good rent, open minded people….plus the cost of making stuff is quite good.

 

Many young artists struggle to make a living off their work, and often support themselves with a job. Is this still the case for Angelspit, and how many sacrifices have you had to make to do this overseas expedition?

We do not go clubbing because we do not have the time or money. We have worked extremely hard to make something that has artistic integrity.
The problem is putting up with the constant knocking and critisms from people who are closest to you.
People always ask us why we never go out…without realising we are extremely busy working on our art.
…then they see our art and call us “lucky” and comment how they wish they had the time to do it….and then they usually give you some critism about how they could have done it better.
We are not lucky. We are just extremely hard working.

At this moment, we have to complete one more track, and then the album is done. If we don’t mix/produce it right, we’ll turn a good track into a steaming turd. The problem is that we are, at this moment, totally exhausted. We have a looming deadline for the album - if we miss the deadline, the album will not be ready for our tour.
Creativity…? Inspiration…? what the fuck are these things?
There is only focus and hard work. We need to be come uber focused ninja ROCK monks to get this done.

Tall Poppies syndrome is absolute bullshit. Self doubt is a vile disease.

You can have lots of money to buy all the trivial plastic toys you desire, OR you may create your art. Choose one.

 

If Angelspit could make a major impact on their fans either politically or personally with your next album, what is the one thing you would drive into their skulls?

Get Active. Throw away your TV. Make the art and music you have always wanted to.
…and stop complaining about how much your scene sucks. It only sucks because YOU SUCK. If you help promote, learnt to DJ, help organise events and encouraged your friends to support, your scene will flourish – I promise.

ROCK!

ZooG.